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  <title>an idea to get this going in the states..or anywhere the monster walks - HOME collective community - tribe.net</title>
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    <title>Re: an idea to get this going in the states..or anywhere the monster walks</title>
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      <name>Mario (RaShu)</name>
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    <updated>2008-02-20T03:45:50Z</updated>
    <published>2008-02-20T03:45:50Z</published>
    <summary type="html">I think we share almost exactly the same vision.. The communities cant be about isolated utopias,, they need to be healing centers for the world,, like chakras, generating high vibe energy and high vibe foods. If theres any way that i can help you in manifesting this,, let me know. If your working on a project that needs help, please tell me. One thing that I would like to add to the idea,, to the spreading "it" aspect of it,, we can sell organic food, and al that is great and important but we should also have a large healing center on each community, so even people who are just passing by can comne and recieve free or very cheap high-level energy healing.. I also have a vision of an Om Chamber where visitors would stand in the middle of a circle and recieve the vibes of some selected members of the community, in a circle around the visitor, Oming and Loving deeply that individual so that they go back into the world ressonating at higher frequencies and have the dominoe effect with everyone they intereact with.&#xD;
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Hold the vision in your mind, see it and feel gratitude in your heart knowing that it is a reality.&#xD;
I Love and Bliss You All. AUM.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Mario (RaShu)</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-02-20T03:45:50Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: an idea to get this going in the states..or anywhere the monster walks</title>
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    <author>
      <name>SunRa</name>
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    <updated>2008-01-23T15:27:21Z</updated>
    <published>2008-01-23T15:27:21Z</published>
    <summary type="html">wow... you made me cry...</summary>
    <dc:creator>SunRa</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-23T15:27:21Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: an idea to get this going in the states..or anywhere the monster walks</title>
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    <author>
      <name>SunRa</name>
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    <updated>2008-01-23T15:21:25Z</updated>
    <published>2008-01-23T15:21:25Z</published>
    <summary type="html">wow... you made me cry...</summary>
    <dc:creator>SunRa</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-23T15:21:25Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: an idea to get this going in the states..or anywhere the monster walks</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Zen</name>
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    <updated>2008-01-14T02:49:17Z</updated>
    <published>2008-01-14T02:49:17Z</published>
    <summary type="html">The next door property is up for sale. 3 acres, asking price is $30k. get more info here; &#xD;
http://tribes.tribe.net/ecoark/thread/5349dc1d-b403-41c0-94a8-f0a46d1ff452</summary>
    <dc:creator>Zen</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-01-14T02:49:17Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Re: an idea to get this going in the states..or anywhere the monster walks</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Zen</name>
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    <updated>2006-08-22T01:45:11Z</updated>
    <published>2006-08-22T01:45:11Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Love your Ideas bro. Wish they were more workable. I guess 'cause i have been trying for 20 years and words come easier than actions for many. Every time I tried with, and depended on others to make it work, they flaked out. it's the difference between rainbows and drainbows. That's why I busted my @ss for years at something I hated to provide this land myself. You are welcome to help, But a small deposit is required, and forfitted if one doesn't keep their work commitment. Drainbow prevention tactics! I only require one day a week, and there is a city 15 miles out with jobs available so you can save and buy/own a neighboring parcel. Prosperity and devine plan can work hand in hand. Also diets as well as many other facets in our lives vary widely, so everybody is responsible for their own trip. Sure beats having to gag down something you don't really like. Besides, I have tended to find that people who are responsible tend to like the freedom that responsibility affords them. Most people looking for a total free commune lifestyle tend not to be motivated to get the stuff done. Especially THEIR share. I am here to offer my efforts as a stepping stone, not a free ride. you can check out my best guess at how to accomplish this here...&#xD;
http://members.fortunecity.com/fbush2/guide.html&#xD;
And be sure to come back and tell me what you think. I agree that a leader should not be doing it for ego, but because it needs to be done. This is my baby, and if someone endangers it, I'm goin' after his okole. It's hardball, like life is. but I agree with you that with some effort we can make things a lot better, for everyone.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Zen</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2006-08-22T01:45:11Z</dc:date>
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    <title>an idea to get this going in the states..or anywhere the monster walks</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Ishi</name>
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    <updated>2006-06-18T20:23:24Z</updated>
    <published>2006-06-18T20:23:24Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Earth Friendly Self-Sustaining Economic Communities &#xD;
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It has taken me 12 years to put words to my vision, yet it barely gives the briefist of glimpses of what i mean by those words. &#xD;
If you can live off the land and have it provide what you need, then your only challange is buying land. &#xD;
And unless you have been part of a tight-knit community for better then 10 years, you only have a vauge idea of what one is. And what the future generations will do. We could create a utopia and the children wouldnt see it that way unless we could show them the other side of things as well. &#xD;
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now on to the dream &#xD;
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Land isnt that hard to aquire for grps of people working together. Neither is building earthen houses, building and maintaining farms. (a 5 acre hand worked, chicken poop/compost fed organic farm will produce more food then a tracktor can on 20-30 acres) With house, food and land out of the way, .what else do you need in life. Music, laughter and... &#xD;
The right tool for your hand; sewing, woodworking tools, mechanic tools, doctors tools, ect...... &#xD;
And if everyone does what they do best for the benifit of themselves and their community, and join in when things need to be done (building homes, planting, harvest...ect..), there would be no need for barter or trade, while maintaining a lifestyle of abundance. &#xD;
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now to the hard part &#xD;
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This type of community can easily be done away from society and the world at large, but it helps the situation almost none at all, except for those who are doing it, And &#xD;
the small patch of dirt they are protecting. &#xD;
So how to make it a vital part of normal society so everyone who wants too can see it., touch it, smell it, feel it, ponder on it, love it, and want it. &#xD;
I think the trick is to provide more then your community needs, and provide for free our services to each other. Easily done, .then sell everything else to outlanders. To catch their attention, make them food and sell them all the services we provide....basicly takeing the part of the land closeist to socitiy and building a town to sell what your community provides (soup kitchen, grocery store of stuff you make and grow, mechanic shop, brewery, wood crafts, clothes, doctors office, ect and anything). All the sudden we dont spend money other to buy things we dont make, pay our taxes, and trips/traveling, and we start takeing all the other money we make to buy more land. Tis land is all we need, and we want to protect it for future generations. &#xD;
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I think the best solution for buying land is to put it in a land trust, so no-one owns it, but everyone with good intentions can use it, there are ways to set up land trusts with restrictions( such as only 10% can be cleared of woods for the use of houseing, farming, recreational, ect) and if not one entity owns it, it is almost impossible to take away through the court of law. People want change, it just isnt convienient yet. I think this plan can make it convienient. Just think of all the rainbows, and every other gatherings of the people. Most dont have a way or a means to make what they want to come true (I am trying to find an easy way to create funds, or means for people to buy land. Run any ideas by me, getting closer, but not everyone can do it the way i've divised).....And if you could show them how, they would frikkin explode with good intent, setting these up next to every existing town, city, and out in the beautiful mountains...we could be a huge source of better foods, items, services, all of whitch are hand made, not harming the earth! &#xD;
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Now back to tight knit community. If you arnt a part of one, this might be hard to digest. There Should Be No Hierarchy. People have 2 different respects; #1 you command your personal respect in your community though your actions and/or lack of actions, and if you do your best as much as you can, and how honest (Impeccable) you are, #2 the way you respect others. And through those you make yourself part of a community. There is hierarchy everywhere you look, why in the world would you want one here? Communities take care of each other, know each other's Gifts and Downfalls, we deal with things we dont like, and we defend each other when things go wrong, we encourage and support, have meetings where everyone has a say. But if you command low respect in the community through your actions, your words dont have much weight. There will always be persons who are natural leaders, and/or authority figures. But the difference is that they can not force people to do what they say. If you read leadership books, they say., "to be a leader you must give yourself to the people, the people must buy into you and your ideas, or they will not follow. Through love, encouragement, empowerment, and never breaking their trust, you can lead people to greatness.". So there is no need of Hierarachy, for communities can take care of problems. And hierarchy just leads to coruption, control and greed. Where natural leaders, and natural authority figures will keep the momentum up, find solutions, and be a part of the peoples. They dont need a title, they dont even need to be named. We know who they are, or will soon learn... &#xD;
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Creating a tight knit community doesnt happen over nite. &#xD;
It takes time. It's being raised with, and by people. Then helping raise the future generations. It happens when a 24 year old, 38 year old, 56 year old, and an 90 year old can say to each other.....Thanx for always being there for me.... &#xD;
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Yes i do see some problems with this plan. Life can-not be contained, and you never know what can happen. But I have not seen, heard, read, been intoduced to a conceipt that might actually have a dramadic change of possitive growth and insperation to live better then we are. &#xD;
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reach for the stars and anything is possible with the essance of unity and thought &#xD;
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time to create a new legend for our children to learn from and guide them &#xD;
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time to protect this planet, for it gives us everything we could ever need, want, or think of, freely and willingly. All you have to do is reach for it, and treat it with respect &#xD;
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Salute to the Free &#xD;
Change is good, change means growth, and growth is life &#xD;
Drink in the beautiful chaotic storm of life &#xD;
And strive to be at the eye of the storm &#xD;
Where you have the freedom &#xD;
and consciousness to act, &#xD;
rather then react &#xD;
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The Fluid Lively Chaotic Plan &#xD;
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If we could set up thousends of these, they would know about us. Provide the masses with earth-friendly resources, and they would aprove of us. Even if we do what we love, are happy, and free.............For example.....If someone were to put one soler panel on every building in america, we would have more power then we could possibly use. So you set of green power for the communities, more then we need and feed the rest into the grid. All the sudden the power company makes free money off us, but the best part is, that the more we do, the better the world will get, by not depending on the greedy men who's money depends on oil and control.(I like examples, cause i dont want to control, or hamper the ideas that can make this happen) &#xD;
And as for the splash, have you ever seen 100,000 people working in one direction, with a common purpose, that helps them, and the world at large? That would be more then a ripple, more like a tidal wave, and the possiblitys are endless fo what they could do. And thats what im looking for, 100 thousand people, or more, to inspire, encourage, plan, and act upon a course of action. &#xD;
Anyone who has a means of provideing land and/or aquireing it, need to connect with people who can work the land (for example, those who are good at aqureing funds, provide, those who Build, provide, everyone has something to contribute...provide....for if we all provide what we have to offer, that=abundance....... ) &#xD;
Only thing thats hampering this way of life, is the illusion that if you donate your life to the betterment of this world, that you take away from yourself. Give yourself away to a lover, a pet, a dream, a family, a friend, work you love, a wonderful cause. How could those take away from your life? Look at your past. Can you say you have given yourself the world, and given yourself to the world? I have spent 10 years of my life (out of 24) working, trying to provide the things i need and want. But working for companies, I give my years to them. For what? Bio survival tickets. Does that take away from you? Can you give your kid all the attention you want, spend as much time with loved ones as you want too, do you feel inspired working the way you do? Do you get to express yourself truely, every day, by giving yourself to the world, and giveing yourself the world? If you walk around today and put a smile on everyone's face, dont you think someone would put a smile on your face tomorrow?: If everyone who wants this kind of dream, gave ourselves to this kind of dream, and gave our dreams to the world.....would we not be in the company of friends, be able to have our children with us at work, and find time to give them among our day. Be able to give yourself to your lover, for he or she could be there with you. Able to sing, play music, dance, upon a thought or whim, take a walk, take a break/nap at the time you perfer.... &#xD;
When i give my time away freely to my friends, lovers, teaching kids, makeing someone smile and laugh, romping with the dog, playing music for those to enjoy it, makeing something for someone to use, inspireing others, encourageing others, helping others. All give myself the only thing i have ever needed. Blissfull satifaction to live in such a wonderful world. &#xD;
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I cant change people, nor would i want too, but i will encourage them to be the best they can be, encourage them to fight for their dreams, and they might change themselves to become the best they can be &#xD;
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I dont care how it happens. I dont care if every community is set up completely different to reflect the people who want to live there... &#xD;
I Just Want To Help Build It........ &#xD;
I am a builder....and would rather build our dreams for nothing other then food and good company..... &#xD;
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I have been studying Real Estate Investing for 6 years now. And investing can make many people wealthy. What is investing anyway? Take an idea, find people who believe in you and your idea, and use those peoples resources to benifit everyone who invested in you. As long as you dont let them down, they will invest more and more and more, again and again and again.... &#xD;
I was going to use this knowlage to build my fortune from, then realized that my fortune was my dream! And if I died without a penny to my name, as long as i could build dreams, it would all be worth it..... &#xD;
I Give Myself and All I Have To Offer, to this Legend of freedom, love, happyness, abundance, insperations, encouragement, cherishment of the planet, becomeing the best you can be, and ACTION &#xD;
Help make this legend, to pass on to the future... &#xD;
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So now the only question left is..... &#xD;
How far down the rabbit hole, &#xD;
are you willing to go? &#xD;
All the way to wonderland, &#xD;
Or wonderment of what could have been!!!</summary>
    <dc:creator>Ishi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2006-06-18T20:23:24Z</dc:date>
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